December 1, 2009
I heart Cope 2. Honey is just the sweetest, funniest, “call it like it is” kinda guy. After he posted a reply to one of my blog posts saying, “DOPE INTERVIEW BUT RECHECK THE LEGENDS!!!! IM NOT EVEN I LEGEND” I thought to myself, maybe not, but you’re sure as hell a star. A contributor to the recent release, Piecebook Reloaded, Cope’s also go a new show, “The Generations,” opening in NY on December 3. He took a moment from his busy schedule to give us an update on the latest …
Good lawd—what a line up! What was the inspiration for “The Generations” and how did you select the contributors ?
COPE 2: I REALLY WANTED TO DO THIS SHOW BIGGER CAUSE THERE’S SO MANY ARTISTS I WANTED TO REPRESENT TO SHOW THE GENERATION OF WRITERS AND ARTIST OVER THE YEARS AND WORLDWIDE—BUT IM PRETTY HAPPY WITH IT. SELECTING THE ARTISTS WAS EASY. IT’S CALLED LOVE AND RESPECT. THAT’S WHAT I’VE GIVEN TO THESE ARTISTS SO I GUESS I GET IT BACK IN RETURN. THE ARTISTS WERE SO GREAT TO WORK WITH. MUCH LOVE TO THEM ALL FOR MAKING THIS HAPPEN. I WISH OTHER ARTIST WERE LIKE THIS BUT TOO MANY DAMN EGOS AND HATIN. IT’S SAD.
ITS GONNA BE AN AMAZING SHOW ANYWAY. YOU GOTTA SEE THE PIECES IN THIS SHOW. PEOPLE DONT MISS THIS ONE!! GREAT FOR THE HOLIDAYS.
You just got back from Sao Paolo. What’s poppin in Brazil?
I GOT SPONSORED BY THE MOVIE “BOMB IT!” AND BABLEGUM PEOPLE TO GO THERE TO PAINT FOR THE “MEETING OF STYLES” EVENT IN SAO PAULO. I LOVED IT. IT’S LIKE PARADISE THERE. THE PEOPLE ARE BEAUTIFUL. IT’S A JUNGLE—MY KIND OF LIVING. I WAS ON THE LOOSE, OFF THE CHAIN LIKE A WILD BEAST—LION OR GORILLA!!
THEN I HOOKED UP WITH MY BOYS OS GEMEOS. MAN THESE TWINS ARE BLESSED BEYOND AMAZING. THEY GOT THINGS LOCKED DOWN THERE. WE BOMBED ALL DAY. ONE DAY I DID AROUND 30 THROWUPS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. OMG THIS WAS UNREAL. PEOPLE LOVED IT. BOMBIN WITH THERE CRU VLOK!! WITH KOYO, FINOK, ISE, NU, AND OS GEMEOS. WHAT A GREAT TIME. THANKS TO THEM AND MY BROTHA BINHO. MY MAN KNOWS THE SPOTS TO EAT. IT WAS DOPE. I’M GOING BACK FO SURE!!!
You also have work featured in recent release of Piecebook Reloaded, which is the best damn graff book I have ever seen. What is your favorite thing about the art of piecebooks?
THEY PUT IT TOGETHER TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE A REAL PIECEBOOK. THEY DID A GREAT JOB. I LOVE IT. DOPE ASS BOOK. CANT’ WAIT FOR PART 3. THANKS TO SACHA AND CHINO FOR PUTTING A MASTERPIECE TOGETHER. WITH THEM 2 GUYS ON BOARD AINT NOBODY CAN TOUCH THEM
What’s up for Cope2 in 2010 !?
OH MAN WHO KNOWS. ITS ALL IN GOD’S PLAN. JUST DOING MY THING. GOT ALOT OF HUGE THINGS ON THE TABLE: SOME NICE TOYS COMIN OUT; WORKING ON MY NEXT BOOK, COPE2 TRUE STORY—A BIO ABOUT MY LIFE BEHIND GRAFFITI; SOME SOLO SHOWS IN EUROPE NEXT YEAR. A LOT OF THINGS—I DONT WANNA TALK CAUSE THEN PEOPLE THINK YOUR BRAGGING OR BEING BIG HEADED. I’LL JUST LET EVERYTHING SPEAK FOR ITSELF AND I’LL STILL GET HATED ON. IT’S ALL GOOD. IMA ROCK ROCK THE PLANET ROCK DONT STOP!!! SO YEAH THATS THE REAL DEAL JUST BEING REAL LIKE I ALWAYS WISH EVERYONE WAS!!
December 1, 2009
I first met Estevan Oriol backstage at a Cypress Hill concert. He had invited me to check out a show, and I thought we were talking exhibition until he mentioned the Nassau Coliseum, and then I was like—ohhh, a show.
I trooped out to L.I. with my girl Jenny Mannherheim and we hooked up with Estevan. I remember standing in the Cypress Hill dressing room, while Estevan showed us a collection of his photos of women he had shot in LA over the past decade. A serious collection of killer bitches he had amassed, as I looked on with a combination of awe and envy. “I meet girls and the first thing they tell me is, ‘I’m not a groupie,’” Estevan told us, before quickly adding, “Not that you are groupies” to which Jenny and I smiled knowingly.
Although plans to do a book with Estevan did not materialize during my time at powerHouse, I have always maintained a tremendous love for Estevan’s work. Watching him soar to world prominence with his compelling collection of portraits of the people of LA, I was thrilled to learn of the release of LA Woman, his new book with Drago, and could not wait to get my paws on a copy, so at the very least I’d stay inspired to haul myself to the gym every morning!
I don’t usually go for pin-up photography, but your style goes so much further beyond the superficial sexuality of these women, and really captures a quiet intimacy and street energy not usually associated with this genre. It makes me start to wonder—who are these women and how did you connect with them?
Estevan Oriol: My approach to photography is what you see is what you get. You don’t really see pin-up girls. The girls I shoot that’s how they looked when I saw them, but with maybe a little more clothes on.
I started shooting women when I started photography in the mid-90s. I began shooting lowriding because I am in a lowrider car club called Lifestyle, and I was tour managing House of Pain and Cypress Hill. Both of those scenes always had women around so it came naturally. This book is a collection of some women I shot in L.A. throughout the years, some I knew, some I didn’t. The most important thing is to make them feel comfortable and that they are going to look good.
Your vision in LA Woman looks at another side of the city, taking us beyond the stereotypical depictions of Hollywood glamour and showing us a world where women’s beauty is power, and that power is both alluring and aggressive. Beyond the physical, what aspects of a woman are you most attracted to ?
I’m attracted to different kinds of people for different reasons, some for how they act, some for how they look, some for what they have to say—it depends on what kind of project I’m doing. Some of the women were flat out beautiful, and some where beautiful for where they came
from or what they represent.
You didn’t include one of my all time faaaavorite photos—the hands doing “LA” .. How did you decide which ones to include in this collection, and are there plans for a second volume ?
I was first hit up to do a book on street culture of Los Angeles, but I felt everyone expects that out of me so I wanted to throw a twist on it
and a lot of people don’t know me for my women photos. Hopefully they will now.
I didn’t use the L.A. fingers because I am going to use that in the STREETLIFE book coming soon after my tattoo culture book. I’m not
releasing the name yet; last time I did that they named reality shows and other books and mags from it.
It was hard editing this one looking at pictures of women day after day after day. I definitely plan on doing volumes. Its a tough job but somebody has to do it. I’m built for this shit.
Thanks to all the women in the book, the photolabs Fleshtone and Schullman, Patrick Martinez on the design, and Drago for the publishing
S.A. Studios. Its only the beginning!!!!!!